> model S and Y

Sure, but that was after years (a decade?) of lying. In every earnings call (including this year) or interview, you hear his guys on the ground saying 'might' and 'hope' when talking about features and time lines and then Musk pushing 'will WILL' like an angry toddler. He simply knows he cannot deliver until <unknown time> as his people tell him, so he lies. I have sympathy for a startup founder, or a ceo behind closed doors, making things more shiny than they are, but this is the richest guy on earth who became and remains that because he just makes stuff up with confidence for his shareholders. Sometimes he makes a model S and Y or spacex, but other times he makes the largest nazi newspaper ever and a cyber truck. Overall it is good he existed: since the politics weirdness, I wonder if we can expect anything else like his earlier successes. I don't think the fables in earnings calls should be allowed though,