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Access BMC UART on Supermicro X11SSH(github.com)
63 points by pietrushnic 2 days ago | 16 comments
  • KenoFischera day ago

    Funny to see this come back and see my write-up linked. I did this 8 years ago and think I was the first on this particular board (although others had done similar on other boards). I still have a pile of them sitting on my desk because I accidentally kept bricking them by being ... not careful. That said, even at the time this board was already old, so I guess it's positively prehistoric at this point. I eventually stopped working on this because I thought that others were making sufficient progress. It hasn't really fully materialized yet, but between openbmc, opensil, DC-SCM and the work the oxide folks are doing, I'm still hopeful that we'll get out of server firmware hell eventually.

    • duskwuffa day ago |parent

      Out of curiosity: how "bricked" are these boards? Is there irreversible hardware damage (and, if so, how?), or has some firmware just gotten overwritten?

      • KenoFischera day ago |parent

        One of them I managed to fry the pcie root complex somehow, not sure exactly how. One I damaged the traces to the BMC SPI flash. Two others I think just have bricked firmware, but it's been years, so I don't remember for sure.

  • Aurornisa day ago

    Cool write up, but how in the world do they have Gerbers for a Supermicro motherboard?

    • pietrushnic21 hours ago |parent

      You can ask Tim. Those Berbers sitting without any issues on the GitHub for two years already https://github.com/mithro/x11ssh-f-pcb

    • myself248a day ago |parent

      Right? I need that kind of friends.

    • Brian_K_Whitea day ago |parent

      They drew them.

    • mkj15 hours ago |parent

      Image a layer, sand it off, image another layer, sand it off, repeat until you have them all?

  • neilv15 hours ago

    Nice work. Getting at obscured firmware is the next best thing to open firmware. (Well, or firmware that's simply not there, if it's not open.)

    I've had several Supermicro servers at home over the years, and I've kept the one that doesn't include the IPMI BMC. (You can see the unpopulated pads on the board where the Winbond(?) package was in a different variant of the server I had.) Fewer things to go wrong.

  • trevea day ago

    This is very interesting, but I'm a little lost. UART is serial. Are they trying to get a serial terminal set up with some chip on this motherboard? Wat does it let them do?

    • duskwuffa day ago |parent

      "X11SSH" is a Supermicro motherboard [1] with a (fairly common) Aspeed BMC implementing IPMI. (It has nothing to do with X11 or SSH - the name is an unfortunate coincidence.) The UART that is being accessed here is a debug UART for the BMC, which also runs Linux.

      [1]: https://www.supermicro.com/en/products/motherboard/x11ssh-f

      • amy21417 hours ago |parent

        Yo dawg, I put linux on your linux so you can X11/SSH while you X11SSH

      • johnga day ago |parent

        Great explanation.

    • ethan_smitha day ago |parent

      Accessing the BMC UART gives you console access to the baseboard management controller's operating system (typically Linux-based), allowing for firmware analysis, debugging, and potentially bypassing security restrictions that aren't accessible through the normal management interface.

  • sneaka day ago

    What is the benefit of this?

    • pietrushnica day ago |parent

      Possibility of runtime exploration of the system which may help in OpenBMC port.