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Shenzhou-20 astronauts complete second spacewalk to enhance Tiangong station(spacenews.com)
53 points by rbanffy 3 days ago | 14 comments
  • mystraline2 days ago

    I'd like to remind folks why China has their own space station:

    The USA banned China from the 'International' space station back in 2011 (Obama) cause of.... National Security.

    https://time.com/3901419/space-station-no-chinese/

    • perihelions2 days ago |parent

      I think that's a wise choice that history will look kindly on, as it does on skeptics of US-Russian cooperation pre-2022. Space technology is, before everything else, military technology.

      • mystraline2 days ago |parent

        China hasn't been in any war since early 1980s.

        My country (USA) decided to warmonger even more just last week. And we side with a genocidal country hell-bent on middle eastern occupation.

        And China's the wrong one here? Not buying it.

        • based22 days ago |parent

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sino-Vietnamese_conflicts_(197...

        • bobs_salsa2 days ago |parent

          Not disagreeing on the above, I agree quite strongly in fact. It’s important we are critical of our own tribes.

          Your final question though is maybe worth a challenge. Why can’t both sides be in the wrong? I always find we are quick to make a problem quite polar without accepting the grey mush in between.

          In this case, China has similarly also demonstrated its far reaching and abusive capabilities when given the opportunity (my thoughts around belt-and-road, Tibet, Uighurs and its own treatment of its people in its past). Your point on china not being in a war is also one that can be challenged, proxy wars have and continue to be a thing. China has played their part and continue contributing to active conflicts.

          • Gathering66782 days ago |parent

            "Why can’t both sides be in the wrong?"

            I would like to upvote simply because of this sentence. Yes.

            And stepping away from right or wrong judgements for a moment, I think it is clear that banning space tech really didn't work out, and banning semiconductor tech probably wouldn't, either.

        • stogot2 days ago |parent

          Hindsight is the wrong view here. They publicly stated they will take back Taiwan with force, and they’ve been preparing for it and running exercises to practice it. It’s going to happen in the next few years

          Meanwhile they will have their own genocides and human rights abuses https://news.un.org/en/story/2022/08/1125932

        • 9337throwaway2 days ago |parent

          It's not a bad idea to be slightly suspicious of a county that's quite willing to stave millions of its own people to death and call it a "great leap".

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          • rbanffy2 days ago |parent

            It's an excellent idea to be suspicious of a country that starves 13% of their population because "capitalism".

            https://www.ers.usda.gov/data-products/ag-and-food-statistic...

            • disattentiona day ago |parent

              In what way is food insecurity comparable to death by starvation?

              • rbanffya day ago |parent

                Why would a country allow food insecurity? How does it benefit the population?

                I’d also be suspicious of a developed country without universal healthcare. Why would they subject their own population to avoidable disease?

                https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamainternalmedicine/articl...

  • michaericalribo2 days ago

    Wow, 6.5 hours is a long time to do anything that requires focus, much less a spacewalk…!

    • hulitu2 days ago |parent

      There are CEOs who work 19 hours a day. /s