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DRM Panic QR code generator(rust-for-linux.com)
79 points by weinzierl 5 days ago | 43 comments
  • weinzierl5 days ago

    In this context DRM stands for Direct Rendering Manager.

    It has nothing to do with digital rights management.

  • danhor5 days ago

    It seems like this is already deployed in Arch, as I've hit it yesterday. I was surprised at first, but it was quite useful.

    • homebrewer5 days ago |parent

      It's easy to check (unless the kernel was compiled without config in procfs, which it probably wasn't):

        $ zgrep CONFIG_DRM_PANIC_SCREEN_QR_CODE /proc/config.gz
        CONFIG_DRM_PANIC_SCREEN_QR_CODE=y
      • sudobash12 days ago |parent

        There are mainstream distros that don't have config.gz. Fedora is one of them. But it keeps a copy of it's config next to the kernel. If you don't have /proc/config.gz try this:

        grep CONFIG_DRM_PANIC_SCREEN_QR_CODE /boot/config-$(uname -r)

        (Fedora is enabling the DRM panic screen QR code)

      • kokada4 days ago |parent

        Thanks, also seems enabled by default in NixOS.

  • jcalvinowens4 days ago

    This is awesome. I can't tell you how many times in my life I've been sent a photo of a Linux panic bracktrace with the first half missing because the screen couldn't display enough lines...

    Funny story: on an x86 motherboard with no serial, I recently resorted to using an old 4K monitor with the 4x6 tiny console font to catch a panic (that netconsole wouldn't log for some reason).

  • greatgib5 days ago

    Fun, and nice addition, but again another good example of let's sneak some rust in critical parts of the kernel so that rust will become mandatory.

    I would not really have noticed if there wasn't this section about why rust, where arguments looks phony and clearly made up afterward to justify a decision that was already taken:

       This project was written in rust, because memory safety is critical in a panic handler.
    
       For this particular case, I found the Rust code to be cleaner, and easier to read.
    • jeroenhd5 days ago |parent

      The first version of the PR is a little more honest: https://patchwork.freedesktop.org/series/135886/

      > There is no particular reason to do it in rust, I just wanted to learn rust, and see if it can work in the kernel.

      Which I think is fairer. Good on him for trying to stay on top of recent developments. With Linux basically supporting Rust now so it's a valid choice, especially for a new component. Plus, it's not like this is an important features, the anti-Rust people can live perfectly fine without QR code crash dumps like they have for decades now.

      I think doing this in C is an unnecessary risk (you really don't need all that many raw pointer interactions and shared struct ownership) but the security and stability of this component hardly matters. The kernel is already dead because of a bug or a hardware failure anyway, this is just making the catastrophic failure of the rest of the system a bit prettier.

      • greatgib5 days ago |parent

        > > There is no particular reason to do it in rust, I just wanted to learn rust, and see if it can work in the kernel.

        Good catch the earlier comment, with that I would not even have raise an eyebrow because it is more a motivation that I find valid and not fishy like the post rationalization that is in the original post.

        That being said, I still find it ridicule the attempt to emphasis on how dangerous it is to do "C code" for the kernel because not memory safe all of that, when you see for how long the kernel exist, was able thrive, with relatively few critical issues in the end compared to most software out there.

      • meindnoch5 days ago |parent

        >Good on her for trying

        "Pronouns: He/Him" https://gitlab.com/kdj0c

        • jeroenhd5 days ago |parent

          Good catch, didn't spot that on the freedesktop site and the docs page linked. I've edited my comment.

          My apologies to kdj0c if he's reading this.

    • rcxdude5 days ago |parent

      I suspect it's more of a 'this would be handy to have, and I would prefer to use rust' as opposed to motivated by making the language harder to do without in the kernel. Certainly this kind of thing I would find rust much nicer for than C.

      (I would agree the first argument is kinda wavy. If anything the panic handler has a fairly unique relationship with memory safety: it's likely to be executing in an environment where that's already gone out the window and it needs to try to assume as little as possible about what might or might not be correct that its reading from and writing to, while also its own memory safety is perhaps less critical because the system is already crashing, it's just got to get the info out before everything completely stops. Though that doesn't make it immune from security concerns. A code execution vulnerability in the handler means any panic could turn into a worse problem)

      • tialaramex5 days ago |parent

        The elaborate Rust type system and so on does not exist in the machine code executing when "the system is already crashing". Very often it turns out that expressive Rust you wrote which talks about a fancy Iterator protocol and a lambda function just got compiled into the same sixteen CPU instructions that would have been emitted for the (much harder to understand) macro expanded C you'd have to write instead with the same meaning.

        Rust vs C matters a lot more for maintainers, who read the source code - hopefully not from a machine which is currently crashing - than for the executable kernel itself.

        • rcxdude5 days ago |parent

          I'm aware, whuch means that e.g. you're liekly already in undefined behaviour land and rust's safety guarantees are no longer, well, guaranteed.

    • rs1865 days ago |parent

      > let's sneak some rust in critical parts of the kernel so that rust will become mandatory.

      This project is a great example of where and when Rust should be used.

      "sneak" some rust in the kernel? It is exactly this kind of attitude that is slowing progress.

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      • justsomehnguy5 days ago |parent

        IMO "sneaking" in some important yet not critical parts is the way to both test the tech and how it plays along

    • kookamamie5 days ago |parent

      Agreed, picking Rust for the project likely has very little to do with "memory safety".

    • ChocolateGod5 days ago |parent

      What's the need for memory safety if the kernel is going to stop executing and memory will be wiped before any further execution is done.

      • krior5 days ago |parent

        Memory safety is not just about releasing unused memory.

    • josephcsible5 days ago |parent

      Rust being mandatory in Linux will be a good thing. I eagerly await the day that (aside from arch-specific syscall boundary code, etc. that has to be assembly) the entire kernel becomes 100% Rust only.

      • dmitrygr5 days ago |parent

        Absolutely nobody stops you from writing one in rust. Have fun.

        • josephcsible5 days ago |parent

          I'm not saying that it's easy or that I could do it. I'm just saying that if it does happen, it would be a good thing, not something you should be opposed to.

    • varispeed5 days ago |parent

      > because memory safety is critical in a panic handler.

      As in: I can't be bothered to write memory safe code.

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  • userbinator5 days ago

    Do not want. More dumbing down and opaqueing? This is as stupid as what happened to Windows' BSoDs.

    • preisschild5 days ago |parent

      Have you even read what it does in the link? How is it "dumbing down and opaqueing" to just encode the kernel panic in a QR code?

      Its not like in windows where you get some cryptic error code. This is just encoding kernel panic traces as a QR code, so more can fit on the screen without scrolling and copying is easy.

      • userbinator5 days ago |parent

        and copying is easy

        It's always easier to read and share text, e.g. over the phone, and not have to rely on another complex layer of obscurity --- especially when you're trying to figure out what happened.

        • ranger2074 days ago |parent

          I think a QR code is easier for most people to share in a computer-readable format. You take a picture on your phone and either decode the QR code on your phone or send the picture to another computer and decode it there. The alternative is taking a picture on your phone of a screen of text, and either manually typing out what it says or using OCR, which (given pictures I've seen where people take pictures of their screen) is going to run into difficulties

          • kokada4 days ago |parent

            That is even assuming that the TTY has the correct resolution for your monitor, that is not always the case. If not, it is highly likely that the most important information will be missing, it happened for me quite a few times.

            Of course, it doesn't mean that the QR code could also not be cut off the screen, but since QR code is more dense in information (like the post says), I think this is more rare.

          • userbinator4 days ago |parent

            The problem is the opaqueness. I can read text and so can everyone else, and instantly have an idea what it's saying. No one can read a QR code and it furthers the impression of learned helplessness that M$ and the like would want. Hence keep this shit out of Linux.

            You take a picture on your phone and either decode the QR code on your phone

            Not everyone has nor wants another corporate surveillance device.

            • preisschild3 days ago |parent

              A QR code is a totally open standard, you don't need a proprietary "corporate surveillance device" to read it.

              • userbinator3 days ago |parent

                You still need more than your eyes and brain.

                • preisschild6 hours ago |parent

                  Thankfully, almost everyone has a mobile QR decoder always in their pockets...

  • sudobash12 days ago

    I am disappointed to see that the QR code is completely replacing the panic messages. There is plenty of room on most monitors to have a stack trace on one side and the QR code on the other.

    I probably won't be enabling this on my machines, but good on them for trying to improve on the Linux panic screen.

  • Am4TIfIsER0ppos5 days ago

    How am I supposed to use a QR code when the only thing that I have to decode it is currently panicking? If I am supposed to draw it I hope it is only a few bits. A traditional BSOD with codes and registers would be easier to copy.

    • bauruine5 days ago |parent

      It may isn't useful for you but a huge majority has a phone they can use for this task.

      • elmigranto5 days ago |parent

        What if your phone’s kernel panics? :)

        • andrelaszlo5 days ago |parent

          Bring out the crayons and some graph paper!

        • tialaramex5 days ago |parent

          Did you know other people have phones too?

        • ChocolateGod5 days ago |parent

          That's planned obsolescence and you should get a new one.

        • preisschild5 days ago |parent

          Get your second phone, duh :)

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