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Xbox Hacks: The A20 (2021)(connortumbleson.com)
105 points by mattweinberg 5 days ago | 24 comments
  • userbinator4 days ago

    For those wondering what software depended on A20 wraparound, there is this interesting series of articles:

    https://www.os2museum.com/wp/who-needs-the-address-wraparoun...

    https://www.os2museum.com/wp/the-a20-gate-it-wasnt-wordstar/

    https://www.os2museum.com/wp/exepack-and-the-a20-gate/

    https://www.os2museum.com/wp/the-a20-gate-fallout/

    • bigstrat20034 days ago |parent

      It's always blown my mind that software would depend on that behavior. What possessed people to do that? It's very obviously a bad idea.

      • toast04 days ago |parent

        If the system behavior is defined to wrap around, using defined system behavior to reduce code complexity makes perfect sense.

        This was in an era where new computer systems usually meant throwing away all the existing software and rewriting it (or doing a fresh port anyway). Why would you assume someone would extend the system and cause trouble.

      • rasz4 days ago |parent

        Im blown away at how small a number of software depended on the wraparound and IBM still forced A20 hack on us all.

  • messe4 days ago

    Something this article doesn't mention is how the A20 gate was toggled: by writing to registers on the keyboard controller.

    I was always thought this was a completely inexplicable design choice, until I started working in embedded, working with hardware engineers, and having to go through schematics myself. I now entirely understand the choice of wanting to minimize the redesign work and going with the one free pin available (our product has made similar choices too at this stage).

    • st_goliath4 days ago |parent

      The original IBM PC used an Intel 8048 microcontroller inside the keyboard and an 8255 I/O controller on the main board to communicate with the keyboard.

      The PC AT (which had an 80286), later replaced the 8255 with an 8042 microcontroller too. It was running firmware, so re-purposing it for a Hodge-poge of other tasks became trivial. A single GPIO pin was used for masking the A20 line and another for handling CPU reset. Having a total of 24 programmable I/O lines, I guess this could have been done with the 8255 too, but the microcontroller probably allowed simpler interfacing with the CPU and bought them more flexibility for future expansion.

      For the article, this is mostly irrelevant. As somebody else noted, the Xbox wasn't supposed to be able to toggle/mask the A20 line, but later x86 CPUs had already integrated the A20 masking feature into the CPU itself and exposed an A20 control line. The Xbox simply tied the A20 enable line to a fixed potential, the hack described in the article requires a simple hardware modification to change that (https://xboxdevwiki.net/File:Haxar-a20m.jpg).

      • privatelypublic3 days ago |parent

        Linux kernel still has the option to try and use the keyboard to reset the system while rebooting. (Just an aside)

    • wrs4 days ago |parent

      Similarly, on the original Macintosh one of the mouse axis encoders was connected to the carrier detect pin of the serial port chip. Thus, in early versions of the OS, if you closed the serial driver, the mouse would only move horizontally (or was it vertically?).

  • mjg594 days ago

    A20 bugs were still with us until at least 2009, when I tripped over one: https://mjg59.livejournal.com/118098.html . I love the visualisations in this post, it makes it much clearer what's actually going on.

    • diffuse_l4 days ago |parent

      Indeed, more than you ever wanted to know about the A20 line: https://aeb.win.tue.nl/linux/kbd/A20.html (from your article)

      This is one hell of a rabbit hole...

  • pwdisswordfishz4 days ago

    I was confused as to why Xbox would ever enable a feature intended for backwards compatibility with systems it does not need to be compatible with. Especially at boot time. Turns out it did not; this apparently required a hardware modification to pull off.

    https://xboxdevwiki.net/Exploits#A20M.23_hack

  • msk-lywenn4 days ago

    I highly recommend watching the deconstructing xbox talk. It gets very funny.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9NqLljaHc80

  • junon4 days ago

    Building an operating system currently. This isn't just Xbox, we still have to do this in bootloaders.

  • heraldgeezer4 days ago

    What a machine. Would have liked to see PS2 games maxed out on XBOX if possible. Imagine RE4/FFXII versions of those games on xbox?

    Still, Halo 2 legendary is unmatched.

  • 486sx334 days ago

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  • LongjumpingCat4 days ago

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    • ljf4 days ago |parent

      As an FYI to others, it appears this account (and others in this thread) might be a bot.

      • glimshe4 days ago |parent

        I didn't notice it at first but once you said it, it became obvious. There is a cheesiness to LLM comments that is hard for humans to emulate... Although it's still plausible that a person would say something like that.

        • ljf3 days ago |parent

          I'll be honest, I upvoted it at first, and it was only when I saw the 2nd very similar post here and then went into their cookie cutter post histories.

    • endlessvoid944 days ago |parent

      Same. I modded my original Xbox back in the day. It was a lot of fun and I learned a lot.

  • OkPin4 days ago

    What really caught my attention is how this marketing snippet highlights the tension between authenticity and polish in gaming culture. Xbox was trying to hit that sweet spot, it wanted to feel edgy and gamer-friendly but the copy ended up sounding like corporate speak.

    • eddythompson804 days ago |parent

      This is a bot, right? Same with all the new accounts commenting completely unrelated things?

      • cebert4 days ago |parent

        Based on this post and others, it looks like a spammy account to me.