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Immigration agents told a teenage US citizen: 'You've got no rights.'(theguardian.com)
159 points by perihelions 2 days ago | 15 comments
  • 16594470912 days ago

    > ... can be heard telling Laynez-Ambrosio: “You’ve got no rights here. You’re a migo, brother.” Afterward, agents can be heard bragging and making light of the arrests, calling the stun gun use “funny” and quipping: “You can smell that … $30,000 bonus.”

    $30,000 bonus? There should be an equal fine for each US citizen rounded up in the gamified dragnet

    It shouldn't surprise, but it does, at how little people are willing to sell themselves, their humanity and integrity out for.

    "for it is you who know yourself, how much you are worth to yourself, and at what price you sell yourself; for men sell themselves at various prices." -https://classics.mit.edu/Epictetus/discourses.1.one.html#105

    • Nasrudith2 days ago |parent

      Reminds me of the calculations I saw about what the equivalent value of thirty pieces of silver would be. Interestingly one figure would be four months of skilled labor, and based upon that and an assumption of $75K came out to be $25K.

  • foldr2 days ago

    > Laynez-Ambrosio was charged with obstruction without violence and sentenced to 10 hours of community service and a four-hour anger management course.

    You have to admire the sheer gall of this. Perhaps the masked thugs kidnapping US citizens would have more to gain from anger management training than this innocent teenager.

  • nobodyandprouda day ago

    This is why I support the Guardian (imperfect or not) and other journals.

    Fine. Arrest and deport illegal immigrants.

    But this gestapo and these perverse financial incentives all have to go.

    • mindslighta day ago |parent

      The real galling thing is after you set aside your outrage about the fascism, and have the sober realization that Trump is not even going to deport most of the illegal immigrants. The underlying truth the entire time is that many industries are wholly reliant on cheap labor with no legal protections, which is why businesses that hire illegal labor only ever get slaps on the wrist. Trump only talks big, and he always backs down when met with the demands of big business. Furthermore, Trump's own business empire depends on illegal immigrants to do landscaping/housekeeping/remodeling. And he has already made rumblings about allowing them to remain in such "critical" fields. The arc is literally just the exact same con as the past few decades where the Party drives outrage over the situation, does some token actions, and then sells out their constituents behind their backs. The only change that Trump brings is even more unaccountable fascism and performative cruelty to create even more of a spectacle.

  • greenavocado2 days ago

    $30,000 bonus?!

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  • djfivyvusn2 days ago

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    • 16594470912 days ago |parent

      Agreed, represent what you claim without emotional emphasization or hand waving away the full situation involving a US citizen going to his job with his mother and 2 friends.

      > On the morning of 2 May, teenager Kenny Laynez-Ambrosio was driving to his landscaping job in North Palm Beach with his mother and two male friends [...]

    • mindslight2 days ago |parent

      "Something it's not" ? This seems to be straightforward unprovoked assault and batteries by government employees acting under the color of law. If the rule of law means anything, the perps should at the very least be missing their annual pay as restitution to the victims. But of course we know that the wanton cruelty is the only point - panem et circenses. The goal certainly isn't any sort of effective policy.

    • intermerda2 days ago |parent

      > "Another officer says, “They’re starting to resist more now,” to which an officer replies: “We’re going to end up shooting some of them.”"

      You are a fascist.

      • djfivyvusna day ago |parent

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        • notsounda day ago |parent

          If you thought covid fascism was bad why wouldn't you care about this? Was covid fascism so tolerable you'll let the government do more fascism?

      • commiepatrol2 days ago |parent

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    • octokatt2 days ago |parent

      Interesting. What do you think he was doing?