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Sam Altman Subpoenaed on Stage(twitter.com)
66 points by anonymousiam 20 hours ago | 22 comments
  • mediaman20 hours ago

    Serving a subpoena in this manner is for publicity, not process.

    In this case the public defender is issuing a subpoena for records in relation to the trespassing case. This is in relation to OpenAI, not Sam Altman. They could serve any reasonably senior person in the company. It can also be done by certified mail.

    • jsbisviewtiful18 hours ago |parent

      > Serving a subpoena in this manner is for publicity, not process.

      Agree - but considering all of the companies holding copyrights that are pissed at OpenAI right now it's easy to understand the message being sent with doing this in a public manner.

  • ElijahLynn19 hours ago

    https://xcancel.com/KarluskaP/status/1986766915277140052

  • renewiltord20 hours ago

    From a source with more info:

    > Activist group Stop AI, known for organizing protests at OpenAI’s San Francisco office, also claimed responsibility. The group stated that Altman’s subpoena was tied to their upcoming trial, in which members will face charges for non-violent demonstrations aimed at halting what they describe as AI’s “existential threat to humanity.”

    https://www.sfgate.com/tech/article/openai-sam-altman-subpeo...

    • IncreasePosts20 hours ago |parent

      Makes sense that it's from a group trying to make headlines.

      Sam isn't hiding from subpoenas. How to serve him isn't really an issue. His lawyers would be very easy to find.

      • fusslo18 hours ago |parent

        Theres a few things I dont understand

        Quote from the article:

        > "Valerie Ibarra, a spokesperson for the public law office, provided SFGATE with a statement on Tuesday: “An investigator from the San Francisco Public Defender’s Office lawfully served a subpoena on Mr. Altman because he is a potential witness in a pending criminal case. Our investigators first made several prior attempts to serve the subpoena at Altman’s company headquarters and via its online portal.”"

        The investigator made several prior attempts without success. So while I can't characterize his actions as 'hiding', I cant say that "His lawyers would be very easy to find". Additionally, depending on the type of subpoena, it may have to be served to the named individual, not to his lawyers.

        Second, I don't understand how we can say that it makes sense to make headlines when the investigator is a part of the Public Defenders office, not a member of the Stop AI group. The investigator should have no desire to make headlines, unless he has some personal motive.

      • mmooss19 hours ago |parent

        > Sam isn't hiding from subpoenas.

        Do you know Sam and his intentions and tactics? (I don't.)

        • __s19 hours ago |parent

          I know that some rando was able to get on stage for this stunt

          • mmooss18 hours ago |parent

            I guess if you ridicule them, it's like an argument but without any basis for truth (I think that's why poeple use ridicule). What about their claims? What about the GP's claim about serving Altman and Altman's response? What about the value of public demonstrations to bring awareness to issues - hardly a new or illegitimate tactic.

            • nickthegreek18 hours ago |parent

              no one has stated it was illegitimate.

              • mmooss18 hours ago |parent

                GGP called it a "stunt" by a "rando". I think there's an implication there about its legitimacy.

                • __s15 hours ago |parent

                  Nope. I've mostly ignored AI hype. You expressed we don't have enough info on whether they could've served this in a less flashy way, I found this clearly chosen for impact over efficacy of simply serving. Clearly they achieved notoriety since here we discuss. Ingrid Newkirk would be proud

    • tptacek20 hours ago |parent

      Oh lord, so these are Yudkowskites?

      • hollerith12 hours ago |parent

        Yes: like Yudkowsky, the group under discussion (Stop AI) understands that AI "progress" must be stopped and must stay stopped until (probably many decades from now) someone figures out a way to control an AI that is smarter than us, a way that works on the first try rather than requiring many iterations of trial and error.

        • tptacek8 hours ago |parent

          Sounds pretty silly.

          • hollerith32 minutes ago |parent

            Silly little consequence (totally unintended) of killing literally every single person (most likely outcome) or possibly killing some of us and putting the rest of us in suspended animation then a billion years later selling us to aliens.

  • jprd20 hours ago

    Not sure what it is about, but love to see it!

  • jaredcwhite16 hours ago

    Best news I've heard all day. slow clap

  • dmix19 hours ago

    Very classy...

  • ChrisArchitect18 hours ago

    tiktok source: https://www.tiktok.com/@babboshome/video/7569846074664439053

  • uvaursi20 hours ago

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  • metadope16 hours ago

    Jumping up onto a stage, approaching uninvited, while wearing a full backpack... this kind of political stunt is ignorant and irresponsible.

    Not as intrusive and obnoxious as a shaving cream pie-in-the-face, but actions like these lead to future reactionary violence from security personnel.

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/billionaire-ai-overlord-sam-al...