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Britney Spears' Guide to Semiconductor Physics (2000)(britneyspears.ac)
284 points by lachlan_gray 3 days ago | 89 comments
  • AlbertoGP3 days ago

    Around the time this website was made, I was building an application for a big company in Spain that was to run as a Java applet and required the code to be signed.

    They did not yet have their own certificates so I had to make my own CA during testing and sign the code, and I wanted to make sure that they did not forget to switch to their certificates later, so instead of signing the code with my name which some bureaucrat might decide to not bother changing, the code was signed by Britney Spears.

    They noticed it, got the joke and made sure to switch certificates for the release. Everything went well thanks to Britney.

  • gnabgib3 days ago

    (2000) Popular in:

    2023 (37 points, 7 comments) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35763307

    2021 (168 points, 112 comments) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25626532

    2016 (94 points, 31 comments) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10872658

  • varenc3 days ago

    Love the old internet feel to the site.

    You can see it's been basically unchanged for 25 years! Here's the 2001 snapshot from the wayback machine: https://web.archive.org/web/20010202180000/https://britneysp...

    Just keeping any site functional and up for so long is impressive by itself.

    • userbinator3 days ago |parent

      It's only impressive if you've become accustomed to the unfortunate trend of forced obsolescence and the desire of many to justify useless recurring "maintenance" busywork. Basic HTML and CSS will always work.

      • adastra223 days ago |parent

        Maintaining a working server over that time is the challenge.

        • prmoustache3 days ago |parent

          What makes you think the owner of this site maintain a server?

          A quick look at the ip show that it is owned by hostgator.com, a web hosting company.

          The key here is renting the domain indefinitely and moving to a new web hosting company if one goes bust.

          • varenc3 days ago |parent

            I think the challenge is also caring enough to keep paying money to host a site for no clear purpose or gain. And moving hosting providers since guessing hostgator didn't exist back then. Based on the modified times on some assets on the site I'd guess it was last moved in Oct 2015. So glad they kept it up!

            • userbinator2 days ago |parent

              HostGator has been around for a long time too - since 2002.

  • andy993 days ago

    Coincidentally I was just looking for this picture yesterday https://britneyspears.ac/wallpaper/bswp005_800x600.htm (the one absent Britney, but this did cross my mind)

    I remember this, presumably from slashdot 20,years ago

  • junon3 days ago

    I love the idea of this but the mention of Hedy Lamarr could be confused as parody too when she was in fact an incredibly intelligent engineer and physicist.

    Anyway it reminds me of the deep fake of Kim K and Nicki Minaj explaining subnetting: https://youtu.be/KcgyGYTnk4M?feature=shared

    • hnhg3 days ago |parent

      Has anyone made a ranked list of the most mentioned people or historical facts on HN. Hedy must be on there somewhere: https://hn.algolia.com/?q=hedy+lamarr

      • junon2 days ago |parent

        I learned about her from HN so that tracks! As she should be.

    • ekropotin2 days ago |parent

      Dexter Holland from the Offspring, the punk band I was obsessed about during my childhood, has PhD in molecular biology.

      I thought this thread is a good place to share this fact.

    • Hoasi3 days ago |parent

      > I love the idea of this but the mention of Hedy Lamarr could be confused as parody too

      Exactly, that was a bit puzzling.

  • AdmiralAsshat3 days ago

    Meanwhile Dolph Lundgren has an actual MA in Chemical Engineering. It's a pity we can't get him to do something like this in earnest to teach engineering concepts.

    • Guestmodinfo3 days ago |parent

      From Wikipedia "...Lundgren received a degree in chemical engineering from the KTH Royal Institute of Technology in the early 1980s and a master's degree in chemical engineering from the University of Sydney in 1982...."

      Excerpt from https://faroutmagazine.co.uk/remarkable-rise-dolph-lundgren/ "....As a result, he was awarded a full ride to the world-renowned Massachusetts Institute of Technology as a Fulbright Scholar..."

      The above Wikipedia article says Dolph quit studying at MIT after two weeks for acting career.

    • andrehacker3 days ago |parent

      Brian May (Queen) has a PhD degree in astrophysics :)

      • DrewADesign3 days ago |parent

        Tom Scholz, the guitarist for Boston with a masters in MechE from MIT, built his own effects, and much of his own recording equipment.

        • mek6800d23 days ago |parent

          I still remember a very interesting article about him in the Electronic Engineering Times back in 1998: "Boston's Scholz Engineers a Rock Dynasty"

          https://web.archive.org/web/19990224204558/http://www.eetime...

          "Wherever there's a microprocessor, there's trouble."

        • kQq9oHeAz6wLLS3 days ago |parent

          The story of getting their first album made is epic

          • HanClinto2 days ago |parent

            Link to a recommended write-up?

        • kazinator3 days ago |parent

          The guitars on Def Leppard's Hysteria [1987] were supposedly direct recorded using a Rockman.

      • tombert3 days ago |parent

        Greg Graffin, lead singer for punk rock band Bad Religion, has a PhD in zoology [1] and is a frequent university lecturer.

        [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greg_Graffin

      • Cosi11253 days ago |parent

        Dexter Holland (The Offspring) has a PhD in molecular biology [1].

        [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dexter_Holland#Science

      • Cthulhu_3 days ago |parent

        Bruce Dickinson of Iron Maiden is (was?) a fully qualified pilot and flew the band's 747 around the world

    • 3 days ago |parent
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    • leeoniya3 days ago |parent

      and Mayim Bialik holds a neuroscience PhD

      • master_crab3 days ago |parent

        And sadly a bit of a loon about vaccines and supplements.

    • skopje3 days ago |parent

      MA is master of art according to google. MSc seems right.

      • dmd3 days ago |parent

        Many (most, in the US; don't know about Sweden or Australia) institutions don't draw a distinction between the two and award MA regardless.

        • arethuza3 days ago |parent

          Some universities simply give you an MA a few years after getting a BA without you having to do anything additional.

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master_of_Arts_(Oxford,_Cambri...

          • razakel3 days ago |parent

            You do have to manage to not go to prison, though.

        • skopje3 days ago |parent

          did not know!

  • exabrial3 days ago

    The old Internet was so fricken cool before we allowed monopolies.

    • bigfishrunning2 days ago |parent

      Nothing stops people from continuing to put up fun stuff like this; not everything has to be on X or Facebook

  • DeathArrow3 days ago

    There must be Mia Khalifa's Guide to Rocket Science somewhere on the Internet.

  • JSR_FDED3 days ago

    I was crushed when I saw the site needed Flash.

    • embedding-shape3 days ago |parent

      And also Java in the browser for the (presumed) awesome chat, provided the surely still amazing freejavachat.com

  • philipwhiuk3 days ago

    Author briefly/currently worked in SEO as a result.

  • captn3m03 days ago

    I thought .ac was the Academic TLD, and was wondering how this domain was registered, but it is just a ccTLD (2 letter, so has to be). .ac just happens to be the academic second level TLD of choice for many countries.

    Apparently, you could have gotten a .edu before 2001 without being an accredited institution in the US.

    • wink3 days ago |parent

      There seems to be one odd case where I know zero details, but the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Munich_University_of_Applied_S... - usually knows as "FH München" or "FHM" only rebranded to "HM" in 2007 (and then again somewhat in 2011) and yet they own hm.edu and they did own fhm.edu before that: https://web.archive.org/web/20070510152550/http://www.fhm.ed...

  • modeless3 days ago

    From the same era of the internet I recall a site called the "Large Hardon Collider" making fun of the very common subtle typo. IIRC it had a light blue background and crude (in more ways than one) pencil diagrams. I can't find it now and I wonder if anyone else remembers it?

    • userbinator3 days ago |parent

      https://web.archive.org/web/20170814124609/http://largehardo...

      (NSFW, obviously.)

      • modeless3 days ago |parent

        Ha, thanks, I should have remembered the URL

  • caliweed3 days ago

    "In the last section, we looked at the p-n junction. More efficient recombination of electron-hole pairs can be acheived by incorporation of a thin layer of semiconductor material, either p or n type semiconductor with a smaller energy gap than the cladding layers, to form a double heterostructure. (More on this in the future). As the active layer thickness in a double heterostructure becomes close to the De-Broglie wavelength (about 10nm for semiconductor laser devices) quantum effects become apparent."

    Are you playing with my heart?

  • eloeffler3 days ago

    I'm mildly surprised there has been no mention of (Taylor) SwiftOnSecurity here yet :)

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SwiftOnSecurity

    • brabel3 days ago |parent

      Doesn’t that constitute impersonation, or is it allowed since it’s supposedly obvious to be parody?

      • eloeffler3 days ago |parent

        I guess it's mainly un-sueable because the reference is very implicit (nothing but the last name) and using the name Swift by itself constitutes neither impersonation of someone specific nor a Trademark violation or anything like that.

        And Taylor Swift actually is invested in data security, so it's a compliment :) That's no reason against filing a lawsuit but much less for filing one.

  • chris_wot3 days ago

    There used to be a series of network posts by the "Router God". They went missing, and someone resurrected a bunch of them. Sadly, the article "7 of 9 on OSPF" has left us for good.

    • lamontcg3 days ago |parent

      They seem to be in the wayback machine:

      https://web.archive.org/web/20100528044501/http://www.router...

      https://web.archive.org/web/20100328035939/http://routergod....

      Along with Gunney Sgt Hartmann:

      https://web.archive.org/web/20100508022721/http://www.router...

  • opan3 days ago

    The picture on the front page reminds me of the Why's Poignant guide to Ruby, specifically it had a picture of a baby shouting some Ruby code.

  • kopirgan3 days ago

    Not sure if this is a tribute to great women ( like Lamarr) that were entertainers and brilliant in science or a parody of them!

  • leeoniya3 days ago

    oh, good.

    no longer will i have to settle for learning Quantum Physics from Kim Kardashian [1]

    [1] https://old.reddit.com/r/funny/comments/6a5mf7/whats_less_be...

    • sunrunner3 days ago |parent

      There’s also Zara Dar and Chang Hsu’s PornHub/OnlyFans pages for maths and STEM subjects, if we’re going down this rabbit hole…

  • fnands3 days ago

    Blast from the past.

    I remember landing on this site when studying for my undergrad solid state physics exams.

  • markatkinson3 days ago

    Don't go to the chat rooms...

  • nrhrjrjrjtntbt3 days ago

    The OG Margo Robbie

  • amelius3 days ago

    I don't see much connection here between miss BS and semiconductor physics.

    It's just a physics book that happens to have pictures of the popstar in it.

    • conception3 days ago |parent

      It’s a 25 year old joke. It was a simpler time.

      • aeve8903 days ago |parent

        But what's the joke though?

        • twodave3 days ago |parent

          It’s called absurdity. It’s funny because it’s obviously not true, and also funny because of the undertones that it’s a clever way to get horny teenagers to study physics who really just want to see the photos.

          • makeitdouble3 days ago |parent

            It would be absurd if pop stars by defintion could not explain semiconductor physics. Like how a snake wearing boots is absurd.

            • ChrisMarshallNY3 days ago |parent

              Dr. Brian May comes to mind...

              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_May#Scientific_career

              Maybe not so absurd.

              Also, Todd Rundgren used to be a registered Apple developer. We'd see him moseying around the WWDC, every year.

            • twodave3 days ago |parent

              You are being pedantic, but I’ll play along. Absurd has multiple meanings. It can mean nonsensical, but it can also mean utterly ridiculous or silly. Under those other meanings I believe the pop-star-physics-professor still qualifies.

              • makeitdouble3 days ago |parent

                It sounds pedantic, but "absurd" is fundamentally different from "rare". A lot of baggage comes from flagging something as absurd, instead of just unexpected or uncommon. Winning the lottery isn't absurd, having 3 pairs of some chromosome isn't either, and being a successful pop singer with an academic background isn't either, it's just rare.

                • twodave3 days ago |parent

                  It IS pedantic, because we are talking not of pop stars in general, but Britney Spears specifically.

          • netdevphoenix3 days ago |parent

            Very heteronormative even for 2000

        • toast03 days ago |parent

          Everyone knows Alanis Morissette is a master electrician. That's why she has one hand in her pocket, while the other is probing a circuit.

          Anyway, it's kind of Ironic [1] that the dude from Queen is an astrophysicist, and Britney Spears is writing Semiconductor Physics tutorials. Something something music and math.

          [1] Sorry

          • sunrunner3 days ago |parent

            > master electrician

            It’s true, she’s high but she’s grounded (not sorry).

        • chasd003 days ago |parent

          At the time she was ground zero for all of pop culture and pretty much every single man’s crush. When that website came out it was funny because we were all looking at pictures of Britney anyway so may as well learn some physics at the same time.

          Btw, she really went downhill once she fell out of popularity. I think she has a life put back together finally but she got a raw deal. I’m rooting for her.

        • dymk3 days ago |parent

          Same as “the narwhal bacons at midnight” or 67.

        • rybosome3 days ago |parent

          Others have pointed it out, but it’s the juxtaposition of the fact that she’s definitely not an expert in this subject with a lesson in the subject.

          There’s some subtle bits to the humor depending on how charitable you’re feeling. It might just be absurdist, as in “Blackbeard’s guide to astrobiology”, or it may be more mean spirited and playing on a belief that she is not intelligent.

          TL;DR - the joke formula is just:

          subject=…

          person_not_familiar_with_subject=…

          joke=“${person_not_familiar_with_subject}’s guide to {subject}“

          And the amount of implied cruelty in the comparison is variable.

          • amelius3 days ago |parent

            I guess we can now use an LLM to produce a new absurdist book every day.

        • artyom3 days ago |parent

          Simpler time, simpler jokes.

        • jchw3 days ago |parent

          It's a non-sequitur.

        • stinkbeetle3 days ago |parent

          "I don't get it."

      • PlunderBunny3 days ago |parent

        An attempt was made in the section "Band Structure and Effective Mass" of the chapter "Basic Semiconductor Physics" to tie the two disparate subjects together.

      • bjourne3 days ago |parent

        I recently watched A Fish Called Wanda because some old folks said it is a great movie. It is not. It is shit.

        • davidham3 days ago |parent

          I’m team old folks on this, youngun

      • commandlinefan2 days ago |parent

        There was a meme that was floating around about the Hawk-Tuah girl analyzing differential equations (IIRC) just last year. I fell for it, though. My son had to explain to me that it was fake.

      • coqadoodle3 days ago |parent

        Routergod.com was one of the greats, good times.

    • rester3243 days ago |parent

      Interesting, I can see a clear connection between the two subjects on this image: https://britneyspears.ac/physics/basics/images/britneycbvb.j...

      This can't be coincidence!

    • shermantanktop3 days ago |parent

      A joke is like a soap bubble. The act of explaining a joke pops it and reveals it to have no substance.

      The essence of humor is simply surprise. Once the surprise is gone, or if it never was surprising, it seems flat or silly.

      Some people enjoy humor with deeper meaning, and explaining that meaning might be illuminating. But that’s lipstick on a duck.

      • stavros3 days ago |parent

        If I share the OP's objections, which I think I do, the problem isn't with the joke attempt itself, it's with the execution. The joke isn't tied in to the content at all, it's literally just the title, and nothing else.

        If the author had tied song references into the text, for example, that would make it a much better execution.

        • shermantanktop2 days ago |parent

          Agree, this is definitely Penguin of Doom level humor. But the mechanic is the same as most comedy - the tickle of surprise from two ideas coming together.

    • sheepscreek3 days ago |parent

      Autistic me wanted to half believe it. You don’t get any cookies for bursting my bubble :(

    • Dilettante_3 days ago |parent

      Non-sequitur humor was the style at the time.

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  • neilv3 days ago

    Before anyone has a lighthearted Sunday night moment of humor sharing: you probably don't want to link to this site in your employer's Slack watercooler channel.

    Different people might deconstruct the humor of the site's gimmick different ways. Some innocuous, some not.

    But no need to do any literary analysis and critical thinking this time, because...

    Today most people will immediately realize that something like the "Booble" search form on that page is probably a bad idea for a welcoming modern work environment.

    (Related: for the same less-welcoming reason, it's maybe not a great idea on HN.)