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Iran president says capital move now a necessity as water crisis deepens(iranintl.com)
28 points by DrierCycle a day ago | 24 comments
  • ares62319 hours ago

    > country "no longer has a choice"

    I bet it had a couple of choices before this point. The government made all those choices as they came. Now it's being made for them.

    I feel sorry for the people of Tehran.

    I wonder how soon every other place is due. Sooner or later the same choice will be made for all of us.

    • kronicum202518 hours ago |parent

      tbh US made a choice for them long ago.

      • Sabinus8 hours ago |parent

        How long will US support for a previous government be responsible for conditions in the country?

  • stpedgwdgfhgdd20 hours ago

    And why?

    Climate change (no rain) but especially bad water mgt.

    • dogma113814 hours ago |parent

      Nuclear program, ballistic missile program, drones, establishing and supporting multiple proxies in the region.

      For a fraction of what they spent on that they could’ve have desalination plants in the Caspian Sea and a water way capable of providing water to their capital.

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    • kotaKat19 hours ago |parent

      Yeah, there's something about allocating all of your water to those pesky Shahed drone factories for Russia instead of your civilian needs.

  • conartist620 hours ago

    Wow. The future of living in a barren rock is getting here fast fast fast

    • lysace20 hours ago |parent

      To be clear: the cause here is decades of mismanagement.

      • pabs37 hours ago |parent

        On YouTube or Netflix, look up the Fresh Water episode of the Our Planet documentary series by David Attenborough, fresh water is disappearing all over the place due to our actions.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Our_Planet https://www.ourplanet.com/ https://www.ourplanet.com/en/explore/fresh-water/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2DU85qLfJQ

      • mingus8819 hours ago |parent

        Have you seen the general state of … well, everything?

      • renewiltord20 hours ago |parent

        Fully expect the grey men to say the same of us when they look at a cooked Earth: yes, to be clear, it was mismanagement

    • spwa417 hours ago |parent

      Just so we're clear: fresh water is shifting location ... when it comes to the total available, it's increasing. There are many more locations were humans can now live where they couldn't a century ago, not less.

      The issue is not that we can't live anywhere. The earth is greener than before. The issue is that there are a small number of locations where humans can't live anymore, especially not without good water management. Obviously, people don't want to or can't leave, and some of the locations that didn't use to, but now really do require proper management have a LOT of people.

      Teheran has more water than a century ago. But more does not mean infinite.

      • pabs36 hours ago |parent

        The water cycle is also becoming more unstable and unpredictable.

      • conartist614 hours ago |parent

        Source on this info?

        • spwa412 hours ago |parent

          The entire working mechanism of climate change is increased water in the atmosphere. That's why it's getting warmer. CO2 and other gases only accelerate that process a little bit (but as we're at the end of the warming cycle, "a little bit" should be interpreted as accelerating warming by a little bit, if you count the number of years it brings warming forward, that's a lot. Probably a millennium, maybe more). Obviously it also makes things warmer and generally wetter, thereby making very large areas livable that weren't livable before.

          The entire inside of India used to be desert. That desert did not just reduce in size, it split in three pieces and two of them shrunk to zero, and even the third is turning green. The Sahara too is less than half the size it used to be.

          https://theweek.com/environment/sahara-desert-turning-green

          Also, large regions closer to the poles are becoming warmer ... and that means livable.

          And yes, elsewhere deserts are becoming worse, for instance in Spain.

          It doesn't really matter though, as humans are not exactly short on space, and this means we'll need to move large populations in the next century.

  • Havoc8 hours ago

    Sounds like the moment to act was six months ago

  • coffeebeqn20 hours ago

    Land subsiding by 30cm per day? That sounds pretty intense. Your whole door would be underground in a few days

    • jadamson19 hours ago |parent

      Fairly sure that's a typo, or he misspoke, given the sentence immediately before says "per year".

    • imtringued20 hours ago |parent

      Not to mention the permanent destruction of your drained acquifers, which means you can't go back even if you wanted to, because that's what's causing the sinking in the first place.

  • tamimio19 hours ago

    So they can’t make a water pipeline from the gulf because it’s costly, but moving a whole capital is not?! It seems there are other motivations.

    • dogma113814 hours ago |parent

      There are, they want a more secure capital from which they’ll be able to continue operating if a civil war breaks out.

    • mingus8819 hours ago |parent

      Moving a capital is bureaucratic. Setting up new offices does sound a lot cheaper than engineering a new water pipeline for millions of people across 300 miles.

      • lazide19 hours ago |parent

        The people move still needs to happen assuming those people still need water?