Bad idea. I want people working around me to notice, be uncomfortable and especially speak up if something is amiss. Unless you work in a malignant environment, this should be normal behavior.
Everyone can talk and give opinions. The real question is if you can actually make a difference. I tell people there's a gap between knowing how to do something and actually doing it. And that gap is a big part of our engineering skills.
If I'm not going to change something, I'd rather not talk or give opinions.
Related: https://strangestloop.io/essays/things-that-arent-doing-the-...
I’m in the situation the article is talking about where I’m both suggesting advice and willing to do the work. But it requires me to have some allotted time and the boss says we don’t have the resources even 1 hour a week.
It’s like we’re moving chopped wood from the forest to the village and I suggest building a wheelbarrow but the boss says what we don’t have time for that we gotta move all this chopped wood. It’s crushing to have a job that could be very interesting but the tooling and processes sap all of that out.
Aye, someone full of ideas for other people to take ownership of isn't actually being helpful (unless that's explicitly their job)
This is a better way to say it.
Talking at the right place at the right time on the right topic is.
Absolutisms like this are challenging to strike right because an establishment of context is needed. This post's sentiment sounds like regret and resentment over past events (there is trauma), and the author knows to not put their hand on the stove.
Sometimes not speaking up is the best thing for future situations. Other times, it's too costly to not speak up, and what should follow is the speaker making right by their words: action.
It can be helpful to flip the lens from critic to creator. Instead of asking "what's wrong with this thing" instead ask:
Who deserves praise? What spark here deserves to grow? What new thing am I trying myself? Who left today better because I showed up? What's something I (personally) could have improved? What mistake or new facts have I learned from/ widened by view?In many companies (especially in non-tech departments) there’s a culture where the first person to speak up is given credit for an idea as the “visionary”, even if they have no skills to actually implement it. In those environments, speaking loudly and often allows one to “lay claim” to an idea. This can be beneficial as a way to control workload, if you “claim” the idea first, you can control people’s expectations and timelines around building it.
You give way too much credit to what happens in “tech companies”. All companies over a certain size are dysfunctional. It makes no difference.
Strategically, “stop talking” means nothing unless you would otherwise be slamming out ideas. You don’t need people who don’t talk, we have plants for that. You need your silence to say something.
Most problems have been solved except the ability to align incentives.
Until the desired outcome is defined and documented, holding off on solutions and effort would benefit both parties.
I get it. This is roughly me, I don't always have the best answers, but I know most things can always be done better. I've coined a few different terms over the years such as "marketing driven development" when I wind up working in places where the marketing team is driving the devs off a cliff, and pushing new features at the expense of ever having time to deal with technical debt. The industry really needs "Tech Debt Thursdays" or something.
There's always way more work to do and those key enhancements or research stories that could improve everything get deprioritized.
I didn't RTFA - just responding to you:
> Tech Debt Thursdays
Yes, "Fix it Fridays" is another alliteration.
Have you ever heard the phrase "man your battle stations"? Turns out in the US Navy there is also "cleaning stations" and there is a call for all hands to cleaning stations on the regular. I have proposed something similar on a few teams I've been on. Daily won't work and quarterly is too long. The problem is the sprawl that comes from cleaning up things that have unintended side effects. But yes, paying the interest on the tech debt needs to be normalized across our industry.
https://www.navy.mil/Press-Office/News-Stories/display-news/...
There's also in some places 'Friday Afternoon Projects' (also known as FAP iykyk) where you're allowed to work on anything, I'd honestly prefer companies allow me to work on whatever I want once a week so I can put energy into tech debt items, and tools that might make everybody's lives easier.
As of late, I've been thinking about how "debt" may not be the right metaphor.
Fiscal debt is a one-dimensional number that becomes higher or lower from some offset, but it can't change direction. There's no "complex numbers debt."
But software engineering is only one-dimensional if your problem domain is so constrained that the only roadblock to execution is time-at-keyboard, and that's rarely the case in most software (especially startups and hacking). I've too often seen that debt just "evaporates" when the company pivots or the entire system is replaced by another system or rendered completely irrelevant to continue accepting the notion that debt works as a metaphor. Even in the small, too often I've seen things flagged as, for example: "debt - we should consolidate these two pipelines on top of a smaller set of helpers" only to see the use of the pipelines diverge over time such that it turned out to be a great first step to keep them separate and duplicated.
Sometimes things to be improved / cleaned up are obvious, but cleanup assumes taking disorder and making order out of it, and that requires us to know what order even looks like.
> The difference between “annoying senior sysadmin” and “good consultant” is often just whether you’re in a room that opted in.
So much that. No one likes "drive-by advice" - if you want something to be fixed, there should be a person responsible for that. Maybe it's you doing all the work, or you convincing management, or management who is asking for an advice... But if you are just saying "we should fix FOO by doing this and that" with no plans as to whom those "we" are, it's only annoying.
> unsolicited wisdom
A big problem I see constantly is the mindset that it's "wisdom". It's audible in the voice every speaker that thinks it true. No matter when it's said, no matter how many self-aware disclaimers precede it, it comes out annoying as hell (e.g. Lex Fridman). Some people, even when they know they're are doing it, can't stop themselves.
Communication bandwidth is a finite resource, as several years of managers have reminded me.
(Although, it's worth noting that in this era of more remote work, perhaps a little more read-in and context is useful to avoid burning time on back-and-forths that used to take minutes in front of someone's desk but can now take hours over Slack).
what this misses (and unfortunately is not always an option, especially in larger orgs) is that instead of talking (read: complaining), just fix the damn thing and present the solution on a platter (on company time, of course). more often than not, if you've already addressed the issue and it's ready for primetime, people will not refuse the change.
if they do, there's an equal chance that you either didn't understand the situation to begin with, or you work in a team with poor leadership and strategy. learn from the former, leave the latter.
This is terrible advice that will hurt your career progression. The problem isn't that people speak out too much. It's that basically no one is proactive enough to speak out. In my experience the people who speak are the people who get promoted.
Knowing when to shut up is great advice and knowing how the wind is blowing. If I know their is an edict from the top down to be an “AI first company”, no matter how much I disagree with an initiative that comes from on high, I’m going to shut up and be all in.
“The avalanche has already started. It is too late for the pebbles to vote.”
The last time I worked for a product company was as at a startup where I was the second technical hire by the then new CTO who was building up the technical staff internally. The founders bootstrapped the company through an outside consulting company.
There I had a relationship with the CTO where I could just say “that’s a really bad idea” and he would listen.
Fast forward a few years and I was working for a shitty consulting company, I kept my head down for a year, let them fail after I was sure they wouldn’t listen to me and started interviewing and only stayed a year.
My career progression isn’t dependent on the job I have at the moment.
This so obviously AI slop
> So the survival skill isn’t knowing what should be improved; it’s knowing when to shut up. Not out of apathy, but out of resource management, for self-preservation.
The not $x but $y pattern.
Honestly, I use to write like this probably before LLMs - and didn’t notice how cliched it was.
But now if I notice myself using that pattern, I rewrite it.
This isn’t coming from my own thought process so it’s hard for me to think about how I would rewrite someone else’s work today, maybe -
Survival depends on having a sense of when to stay quiet. It is a deliberate choice to conserve energy and protect your stability.
How is something "obviously AI" for being written how you, a human, used to write?
This contributed nothing to the conversation. Your AI divining rod isn't interesting.
And neither does AI slop. All it needs is a bunch of emojis and em dashes…