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Japan law opening phone app stores to go into effect dec.18th(www3.nhk.or.jp)
78 points by shlip 4 hours ago | 13 comments
  • linuxhansl33 minutes ago

    Nice. Someone is doing something. Apple's app store monopoly together with a 30% commission is a modern form of way-laying.

    Meanwhile Google is trying to go the opposite way with mandatory developer registration/verification. In the US we will likely let them. Who needs freedom if there is money to make (and Google is just making a fake security argument.)

    It shouldn't be that hard to do with my phone what I want, including accepting the consequences of my actions.

  • shlip3 hours ago

    JFTC's full 'Mobile Software Competition Act Guidelines' are available here : https://www.jftc.go.jp/file/MSCA_Guidelines_tentative_transl...

    Curious to see how Apple and Google are going to circumvent this.

    • madeofpalkan hour ago |parent

      How is it different to what Apple’s done in the EU, with allowing for third party app stores there.

  • pzoan hour ago

    It seems we in EU got the worst implementation for apple malicious compliance. It should have been similar like this one Japan from the beginning.

  • Mathnerd314an hour ago

    how does this interact with Google's push to sign all apps?

  • ChrisArchitect3 hours ago

    Some background:

    Japan to open up Apple and Google app stores to competition (2023)

    https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36368735

    Japan enacts law to promote competition in smartphone app stores (2024)

    https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40662176

    iOS 26.2 to allow third-party app stores in Japan ahead of regulatory deadline (Nov 2025)

    https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45822302

  • websiteapi2 hours ago

    Sony and Nintendo stores are still closed I see lol

    • socalgal22 hours ago |parent

      Sony and Nintendo only sell games. They don't gate access to banks, investments, health insurance, auto insurance, news, movies, social media, car control apps, appliance apps, grocery stores, e-commerce, etc...

      That's not to say Sony and Nintendo shouldn't be opened too but their impact is much smaller (game devs) than Apple (nearly all businesses)

      • websiteapi2 hours ago |parent

        Apple didn’t start that way though. Better to open it up now no? Also, a better law would be making the web first class, not adding more stores, with other gatekeepers…

        • ghurtado2 hours ago |parent

          > Also, a better law would be

          No, the better law is the one that exists.

          Yours doesn't.

          • websiteapi2 hours ago |parent

            Laws aren’t inherently good though… we will see what this does for Japan, I guess.

      • dangus2 hours ago |parent

        It should be pointed out that they have way less of a monopoly on the market and way more gaming alternatives exist than Apple and Google.

        Apple, Google. Two app stores that are basically necessary for existing in the modern world with a smartphone, which include apps covering Japanese government services.

        In the gaming space, you’ve got PlayStation Store, Xbox Store, Nintendo eShop, Steam, Epic Game Store, GOG, a bazillion publisher storefronts, Apple and Google (again), Itch.io, physical media for the big 3 consoles at dozens of brick and mortar retailers, or even installing games directly with no store at all (Minecraft originated from its own online purchase portal).

      • charcircuitan hour ago |parent

        The switch eshop has youtube which I would count as social media.