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E.W.Dijkstra Archive(cs.utexas.edu)
122 points by surprisetalk 14 hours ago | 11 comments
  • coderatlarge13 hours ago

    what a charming time it was when that generation discovered a bunch of stuff that now undergirds daily life:

    “ Dijkstra always believed it a scientist’s duty to maintain a lively correspondence with his scientific colleagues. To a greater extent than most of us, he put that conviction into practice. For over four decades, he mailed copies of his consecutively numbered technical notes, trip reports, insightful observations, and pungent commentaries, known collectively as “EWDs”, to several dozen recipients in academia and industry. Thanks to the ubiquity of the photocopier and the wide interest in Dijkstra’s writings, the informal circulation of many of the EWDs eventually reached into the thousands. “

    random sample of a trip note in which he is in ited to consult on a project that he thinks ought to be killed:

    https://www.cs.utexas.edu/~EWD/ewd06xx/EWD601.PDF

    • usr110639 minutes ago |parent

      Good read. Completely off topic: He traveled by sleeper train and mentioned that he slept reasonably well and very well on the return trip. In the beginning of my career I made nearly the opposite trip to Brussels by sleeper to a completely useless lobbying/networking event with little tangible content. Often sleep in sleepers is not very good. But on the return trip I only wake up when the train had already stopped at my destination and had to get off very hastily. Not only CS was more fun without AI slop, but traveling, too ;)

    • kensai10 hours ago |parent

      Nonetheless, Prof. Baurer was not a loser. According to some sources he contributed to the invention of the notion of "stack" and "software engineering" among other things.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friedrich_L._Bauer

    • fghiop12 hours ago |parent

      > ... cannot be expected from the average programmer

      Ha! He had to deal with the political B.S. of well-spoken self-important people who spend excessively long and write excessively long code/proofs getting accolades over those that just get things done in the best way! I feel for him!

    • throwaway0xTA11 hours ago |parent

      Digistra’s writing, trip report to Munich, a mechanical repair where a three-fold deduction takes place between 26-27 Nov. 1976.

      The prose strikes one in the vein of a 20th century existential writer.

  • anonzzzies2 hours ago

    I met the man a few times (friend of my father) and I was programming when already when I did: both my father and him always told me to not just write code, but proofs first. I am rather happy for him he is not alive with this LLM stuff. He would've considered it the worst thing ever.

  • commandersaki6 hours ago

    My favourite is EWD1303: https://www.cs.tufts.edu/comp/150FP/archive/edsger-dijkstra/...

    It is Dijkstra's recounting of Operating System design with the notion of the first concurrent computer and interrupt.

  • jonjacky10 hours ago

    Many of these EWD notes are hand written with a lot of mathematical notation, and no corrections. For example:

    https://www.cs.utexas.edu/~EWD/ewd10xx/EWD1063.PDF

    I am reminded of Salieri's reaction to Mozart's manuscripts in the movie Amadeus.

  • throwaway0xTA12 hours ago

    In this thesis, we restrict ourselves to a tape reader (150 characters per second) and a tape punch (25 characters per second).

    Dijkstra’s I/O apparatus corresponds to communication mechanisms for tape reading.

  • Ologn9 hours ago

    Dijkstra's notions about provable functions are probably more important during these times where LLMs are churning out hallucinated code.

    • rramadass27 minutes ago |parent

      Do you mean something specific or his general approach to program correctness i.e. guarded commands, weakest precondition calculus etc. ?