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Google Books removed all search functions for any books with previews(old.reddit.com)
203 points by adamnemecek 16 hours ago | 66 comments
  • abetusk15 hours ago

    Anna's Archive [0]:

    > The largest truly open library in human history

    [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anna%27s_Archive

    • cft14 hours ago |parent

      Mirrors https://open-slum.org/

      • bigwheels12 hours ago |parent

        Open-slum currently experiencing heavy traffic, but here's an additional mirror: https://open-slum.pages.dev/

      • belter13 hours ago |parent

        How funny. They have a DMCA Takedown Requests link...

  • al_borland16 hours ago

    It might be time to update the mission statement.

    “Our mission is to organize the world’s information and make it universally accessible and useful”

    https://about.google/company-info/

    • tick_tock_tick12 hours ago |parent

      Why it's almost certainly not by choice.

    • zb314 hours ago |parent

      * for us, advertisers and our AI models

      • ern_ave14 hours ago |parent

        My guess is that AI training is the main issue.

        Data that you can prove was generated by humans is now exceedingly valuable ...and most of that comes from the days before LLMs. The situation is a bit like how steel manufactured before the nuclear age is valuable.

        • adamnemecek14 hours ago |parent

          But why would people train on excerpts from Google Books when whole books can be downloaded on libgen and such?

          • londons_explore13 hours ago |parent

            Google books is much bigger than libgen.

          • asdefghyk14 hours ago |parent

            copyright reasons?

            • direwolf2014 hours ago |parent

              Both are a copyright violation

  • crazygringo12 hours ago

    Remember that preview functionality is granted by contract with the publishers. Which is why some books have it and some books don't.

    Almost certainly, this is something that publishers requested the removal of, under threat of requiring previews to be removed entirely.

    Books that are out of copyright still have full search and display enabled.

    So blame publishers, not Google.

    • abetusk11 hours ago |parent

      I will blame overlong copyright term lengths. 70 years after authors death or 95 years after publication, allowing most recent work to enter the commons effectively after a century, or more, from now [0].

      [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_law_of_the_United_St...

      • Analemma_10 hours ago |parent

        This is the rare case when Europe is even worse. Metropolis, the 1927 Fritz Lang film, is out of copyright in the United States but will still be in copyright in Germany until 2047: 120 fucking years.

        It’s preposterous, and offensive to anyone’s intelligence to claim that this is about incentivizing production; does anyone seriously believe there is a potential artist out there who would avoid making their magnum opus if it could only be under copyright for 119 years?

        • antonvs8 hours ago |parent

          The problem is, copyright law is no longer about artists, if it ever was: it’s about corporations, i.e. maximizing the value corporations can extract from intellectual property.

          This post which was on the front page today is relevant: https://alexwennerberg.com/blog/2026-01-25-slop.html

    • tamarinddreams11 hours ago |parent

      Given the argument over LLMs consuming books illegally, I think publishers could be a little concerned that an LLM that combined partial previews on every modern work on a subject might be a destroyer of the market for the average book on the subject with the license to do so having been properly granted via this feature.

    • adamnemecek12 hours ago |parent

      The previews are still there though, they just don't rank.

      • crazygringo12 hours ago |parent

        Right, that's what I'm saying. For whatever reason it seems publishers decided they don't want their preview-only books as part of the full-text search across all books. If they decide that, Google has to comply.

        This isn't like web search where web pages are publicly available and so Google can return search results across whatever it wants. For books, it relies on publisher cooperation to both supply book contents for indexing under license and give permissions for preview. If publishers say to turn off search, Google turns off search.

  • damnitbuilds11 minutes ago

    Done to satisfy the copyright barons.

    Protest this by pirating, until copyright terms are reduced to make copyright once again a net benefit for society.

  • Terr_8 hours ago

    Among the less-important things I'd like to send back in time to my past-self:

    "The trend in digitized book passages will reverse, and they will become harder and harder to find with time, so clip your own copies of everything you like to quote."

  • Zathman11 hours ago

    I just checked and yes, search inside of books with previews is still possible.

    (a) when you search books.google.com and find a book with a preview, it opens their new book viewer - the search is at the bottom of the page. You can also click "View All" to see all references of your search in that book.

    (b) if you go to the book homepage (clicking X in the top right of the book viewer if that opened), there's still a "Search Inside Book" next to the "Preview" button under the title.

    • adamnemecek11 hours ago |parent

      But you have to know what book you are looking for.

  • pfdietz12 hours ago

    So, if you search for some text that occurs at the end of one chunk, will it then preview a following chunk? And could chaining these chunks give you the entire book?

    If so, I could see someone doing this to exfiltrate books.

    • crazygringo12 hours ago |parent

      You're talking about in-book search (TFA is about search across all books), and yes that was indeed once a known technique for extracting whole or nearly whole books.

      That's why publishers responded by excluding sections of books from search (it will list the pages but you can't view them), and individual Google accounts became limited in how many extra pages they were ever allowed to see of an individual book beyond the standard preview pages.

      But then LibGen, Z-lib, and Anna's Archive became popular and built up their collections...

  • didip13 hours ago

    Google Books could have been a subscription service ala Netflix.

    Then it would have been hella useful.

  • xorsula115 hours ago

    My guess is they detected being scraped and did this as preventive measure.

    • Andrex13 hours ago |parent

      My guess is they're cozier with publishers now than 20 years ago when they fought all the way to SCOTUS.

      "Hey, remove search?"

      "OK, it was costing money anyways."

    • breppp15 hours ago |parent

      my guess is that the copyright landscape changed due to AI training, and these publishers won't let Google use that data anymore

      • adamnemecek15 hours ago |parent

        The books are still there, it seems like the rankings have changed though.

    • londons_explore13 hours ago |parent

      If search gives you a preview with a few surrounding words, it is fairly simple to abuse search with quotation marks to extract bigger and bigger sections of the books, potentially till you have the whole book.

  • bryanrasmussen14 hours ago

    Since I pretty much only use Google Books for public domain books, old magazines, and newspapers I haven't noticed any problem with it. Maybe it's not as dead as this person thinks.

    • mikestew14 hours ago |parent

      This was addressed in the post, I'm sure you just missed it when you read it:

      "But a few days ago they removed ALL search functions for any books with previews, which are disproportionately modern books." <emphasis mine>

      • bryanrasmussen10 hours ago |parent

        right, my point was just because what they use it for is now useless mine isn't and personally I think mine is more useful.

    • adamnemecek14 hours ago |parent

      No the search results went from pretty good to absolute garbage https://bsky.app/profile/adamnemecek.bsky.social/post/3mdbup...

  • mystraline16 hours ago

    Thats easy.

    Check out library genesis, Anna's archive, and scihub for content.

    Piracy isnt theft if buying isnt ownership.

    • GorbachevyChase14 hours ago |parent

      Ironic those doing the most for making information open and accessible are the criminals.

      • direwolf2014 hours ago |parent

        Of course. When it's criminal to make information open and accessible, only criminals will make information open and accessible.

      • al_borland13 hours ago |parent

        A centuries old problem. Early translations of the Bible to English were illegal or required licenses.

        William Tyndale was put to death for translating the Bible into English, which would have been an act to make information open and accessible.

        • josephcsible12 hours ago |parent

          > William Tyndale was put to death for translating the Bible into English

          That's not what he was put to death for. See https://www.catholic.com/magazine/print-edition/tyndales-her... and https://www.chinakasreflections.com/did-the-roman-catholic-c...

    • kevin4211 hours ago |parent

      I’m genuinely curious how you feel about LLMs being trained on pirated material. Not being snarky here.

      Your comment reflects the old “information wants to be free” ideals that used to dominate places like HN, Slashdot, and Reddit. But since LLMs arrived, a lot of the loudest voices here argue the opposite position when it comes to training data.

      I’ve been trying to understand whether people have actually changed their views, or whether it’s mostly a shift in who is speaking up now.

      • spongebobstoes10 hours ago |parent

        why would that change anything? copyright is still a tax on the whole of society for the benefit of rich people and corporations. it opposes innovation, evolution and progress

        maybe a short copyright would be fine (10 year fixed?) but copyright as-is seems indefensible to me

      • gbear6059 hours ago |parent

        Personally, I'd like for copyright to be abolished, and then for LLM training to be made illegal for reasons entirely unrelated to copyright.

    • adamnemecek16 hours ago |parent

      None of these does full text search.

      • jszymborski15 hours ago |parent

        And they are under constant threat by nation states. sci-hub hasn't seen new papers in ages.

      • greenavocado15 hours ago |parent

        Build a local index

        • adamnemecek15 hours ago |parent

          My problem is finding references I don't know about.

      • droopyEyelids15 hours ago |parent

        zlibrary does

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Z-Library

        • clueless14 hours ago |parent

          I'd wonder if you'd ever consider putting up a downloadable mirror of their full-text search db?

        • adamnemecek15 hours ago |parent

          Huh, the search is not amazing but it will have to do. Thanks! Are there others?

          • teraflop15 hours ago |parent

            The Internet Archive supports full-text search on (AFAIK) its entire scanned book collection, even books that aren't available for borrowing.

            • adamnemecek14 hours ago |parent

              This is actually pretty good.

  • ChrisArchitect15 hours ago

    Title is: Google has seemingly entirely removed search functionality from most books on Google Books

  • adamnemecek16 hours ago

    The change happened on or around Jan 21. Overnight the results went from pretty good to absolute trash.

    Here are two screenshots taken on Jan 20 and Jan 23 https://bsky.app/profile/adamnemecek.bsky.social/post/3mdbup...

    They don't do full text search anymore esp for copyrighted books. I wonder if this is not a regression but an intent to give them a let up in the AI race.

    • toephu213 hours ago |parent

      Yup, it's for AI.

      Similarly, a year ago or so ChatGPT could summarize YouTube videos. Google put a stop to that so now only Gemini can summarize YouTube videos.

      • AJ00711 hours ago |parent

        The YT transcripts are linked to on the YT page itself. If they remove that, it is trivial to use a local STT model to transcribe the video. If they make it impossible to download a video, you could just have a microphone record all of the sound, and so on. Once you have the transcription of anything, summarizing is trivial. I have a local script that does this and I use it all of the time. Also produce diagrams for YT summaries. Hours saved, per day.

    • jeffbee15 hours ago |parent

      It isn't obvious why the left results are preferred over the right results.

      • advisedwang15 hours ago |parent

        The left results are contemporary, the right are decades old. That includes editions of the same book --- surely the newer edition is going to be preferred by most readers.

        • jeffbee15 hours ago |parent

          I guess. That's not immediately clear to me. However, browsing around on Google Books suggests to me that it is the corpus which changed, not the algorithms.

          • adamnemecek15 hours ago |parent

            The corpus is still the same, like searching the name of the book will find it, but the full text search.

        • thaumasiotes14 hours ago |parent

          > surely the newer edition is going to be preferred by most readers.

          Why? Where different editions exist, the reader will want to know which one they're getting, but they're unlikely to systematically prefer newer editions.

          But also, Google Books isn't aimed at "readers". You're not supposed to read books through it. It's aimed at searchers. Searchers are even less likely to prefer newer editions.

          • gjm1112 hours ago |parent

            > they're unlikely to systematically prefer newer editions

            That seems wrong to me. Generally when a new edition of something is put out it's (at least nominally) because they've made improvements.

            ("At least nominally" because it may happen that a publisher puts out different editions regularly simply because by doing so they can get people to keep buying them -- e.g., if some university course uses edition E of book B then students may feel that they have to get that specific edition, and the university may feel that they have to ask for the latest edition rather than an earlier one so that students can reliably get hold of it, so if the publisher puts out a new edition every year that's just different for the sake of being different then that may net them a lot of sales. But I don't think it's true for most books with multiple editions that later ones aren't systematically better than earlier ones.)

            • thaumasiotes3 hours ago |parent

              > But I don't think it's true for most books with multiple editions that later ones aren't systematically better than earlier ones.

              Most books with multiple editions are books that have been translated multiple times. It is definitely true that later translations aren't systematically better than earlier ones.

  • pessimizer13 hours ago

    Google Books is long dead. If you click on the author's name in one of the results, it will search inauthor:"Author's Name" and this search will return garbage because it chokes on double quotes. This has been true for at least a couple of years; Google Books is not compatible with itself. Changing the double quotes to single quotes fixes it. Also, lately, when you filter only for books that have Full View some results that have Full View get dropped for no intelligible reason.

    Nobody is looking at it. I wouldn't be surprised if the preview search was switched off by accident.

    For me Books is only useful (and it is very useful) for books out of copyright, 100+ years old. Sometimes they aren't at archive.org.

    I hate Google, but I think it's a bit absurd to criticize them on this if somehow it's over AI. The only reason Google created Books may even have been AI, but they were hoping to have the books open to everyone, and the publishers and authors whose full text is being blocked are literally the people who stopped it from happening. Maybe they spoke up about AI, too. I find it even hard to even criticize that Google doesn't take care of Books - it has no purpose or profit potential for them anymore, it's obviously charity that they don't take it down completely.

  • kingstnap15 hours ago

    My guess: Text search and indexing is expensive. And you are getting some kind of AI vector search instead.

    Which tends to be kind of poop compared to true text search.

    • storystarling12 hours ago |parent

      I suspect it's actually the opposite. Standard inverted index text search is incredibly cheap and mature. Vector search requires generating embeddings and running approximate nearest neighbor queries, which is significantly more compute intensive than simple keyword matching. If they switched, it wasn't to save on compute costs.