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The largest zip tie is nearly 4 feet long and $75(thedrive.com)
115 points by PaulHoule 6 days ago | 58 comments
  • cyode10 hours ago

    The supersized option in a line of products is always funny for some reason.

    Last week I chuckled upon seeing this online store's inventory of coffee makers: ...10 cups, 12 cups, 18 cups, 50(!) cups: https://www.bialetti.com/it_en/shop/coffee-makers.html?cups=...

    (The 50 cups option turned out to be a decorative piece.)

    • gkhartman7 hours ago |parent

      It's a shame they didn't add a photo with another object for reference. Without looking at the price and dimensions, it looks pretty unassuming.

      • embedding-shape3 hours ago |parent

        It's not even that large?

        > Dimensions: 31.5 cm x 30.5 cm x 46.5 cm

        I mean for a moka pot that's pretty large, but as a total size of an object? Maybe that's why they don't show it next to anything.

    • zamadatix7 hours ago |parent

      I managed to pick up a 22 lb Allen wrench/hex key for a good price a few months vack. Made for a great gag gift wrapped as a giant candy cane.

    • aaronbrethorst8 hours ago |parent

      "Product designed solely for display purposes."

      Sad. Although I am deeply amused that it's 'made' by Dolce and Gabbana.

    • rob745 hours ago |parent

      Yeah, it's funny that they list how many cups this coffee maker could theoretically make if it were functional (and if you had a stove big enough, and were willing to risk damaging the no doubt hand painted artwork on your $3000 coffee maker).

    • lostlogin6 hours ago |parent

      > The supersized option in a line of products is always funny for some reason.

      Takeaway drinks, particularly coffee, have got so ludicrously large that it has me do a double take at times.

      A litre of warm milk…

    • buildbot4 hours ago |parent

      The 18 cup is good for car camping!

  • dotwaffle10 hours ago

    They're 47 inches long. Amazon (UK) has 48 inch long zip ties for $14.45 (pack of 12), 60 inch long for $18. Not quite as thick or wide, sure... But that's not what was in the headline :P

    • jeffgreco10 hours ago |parent

      It doesn't say longest either.

      • dotwaffle10 hours ago |parent

        ... fair point.

    • lazide3 hours ago |parent

      Those long ones are great for certain…. Niche interests. That rhyme with ink.

      Also, law enforcement.

      • sambapa2 hours ago |parent

        Kink?

  • qq667 hours ago

    I used 250lb zip ties to hold down my convertible top in the open position, as an alternative to paying $2000 to replace the motors. When I'd need to put up the top I'd cut the zip ties and when I'd want to put it down I'd put on a new set.

    With California weather and an indoor parking spot I only ended up using about one pack (10? 12?) a year.

    • arethuza5 hours ago |parent

      I can't help thinking that people here in Scotland with convertibles (of which there are a surprising number) would probably use less than you per year ;-)

      • tmtvlan hour ago |parent

        Is that a 'Scots are cheap and greedy' joke?

      • y-curious2 hours ago |parent

        Can you elaborate please? I’m not getting the reference unless it’s some kilt thing

        • OJFord2 hours ago |parent

          The convertible is still the car, not a convertible kilt(?!), GP is saying with Scottish as opposed to Californian weather there would be less changing. Say, a single open-top-weather period (two changes) per year. Or none.

          (I imagine the Californian poster is changing twice per year too, just using 5-6 ties. With that reading the joke is Hey in Scotland you just keep it closed, never need any more ties.)

        • arcanemachiner2 hours ago |parent

          Gonna go out on a limb here and guess "lousy weather".

          • arethuzaan hour ago |parent

            Scottish summer - finest day of the year! ;-)

            • whynotmaybean hour ago |parent

              Let me guess, you don't need to look at the weather, you know it is THE day when your inbox is full at 9am of messages from most of your colleagues taking the day off?

              • arethuza42 minutes ago |parent

                There's even a service for it: https://www.taps-aff.co.uk/

    • h33t-l4x0r5 hours ago |parent

      That's a really heavy zip tie.

  • PostOnce10 hours ago

    Alternatively, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cable_lacing

    • encom9 hours ago |parent

      Electrician here. When I went to school around 2006 or so, we actually learned how to do this. Except more like a historical curiosity. It certainly looks beautiful when done right. Sadly, nobody has time or budget for beauty any more, and that goes for all the trades. And so, I carry around bunch of cableties in my toolbag every day.

      If only people would learn to cut the ends off correctly, so the next guy doesn't tear his arms to shreds.

      • userbinator8 hours ago |parent

        Sadly, nobody has time or budget for beauty any more

        It's amazing how ornately decorated early equipment was --- especially 19th century and earlier.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Cooke_and_Wheatstone_elec...

        • Cthulhu_40 minutes ago |parent

          It's down to taste and materials too - in the past 50 years or so the general design trend is more minimalist, wood has become more and more expensive (and good quality harder to come by), etc.

          But the main reason is of course cost, the linked device looks like a woodworker would spend a few hours to build it (although they probably had machinery to automate parts of the process already).

        • blackoil7 hours ago |parent

          Or the utilitarian cost has gone down much faster than cost of decorative. If your bulb cost $10, spending $5 to make beautiful lamp post makes sense. But if bulb cost has fallen to 10 cents now to justify $2 is difficult.

      • linker30006 hours ago |parent

        I learned how to do lacing during an electronics engineering apprenticeship in the 1980s.

        After the fact, when I moved more in to systems and networking, I found that flat, nylon, waxed lacing cord, with a small nut tied to the end, was lightweight and perfect for throwing through ducting and ceiling spaces very long distances, so you could backhaul cables through the void. It was a real time saver.

      • Nextgridan hour ago |parent

        Isn't cable lacing just inferior? Let's say you need to replace a chaffed/damaged conductor. With cable ties you cut the ones around damaged area, splice in a replacement, and slap new ties on there. With cable lacing, cutting the lacing anywhere would cause the lacing of the whole cable to lose tension and unravel?

        • wildzzz39 minutes ago |parent

          It's not too hard to slip a new wire into a laced bundle. In the places that still use lacing (aerospace), they use tefzel insulated wires that have the benefit of being super slippery against each other. This makes it easy to slip one in but it also helps reduce stiffness in the bundle because the insulation isn't sticking to itself as much as other things like vinyl.

          Last cable I made: https://ibb.co/4gw3GQGL

      • kqr7 hours ago |parent

        As one of the people who don't know how to cut the ends off correctly, how do I do that?

        • nandomrumber3 hours ago |parent

          Search for Flush cutters

        • cl3misch7 hours ago |parent

          Not OP, but I think they meaning cutting it as flush with the cable tie "head" as possible.

          • einpoklum6 hours ago |parent

            That is still relatively easy to cut your finger on.

            I don't know that there's a correct way, really. You would probably have to take the time to file or sand the edges. Which kind of levels the playing field with the cable lacing option really in terms of time spent.

            • gnfargbl6 hours ago |parent

              Trimming the excess flush with the head is the correct way. It's not perfect, but it is much safer than leaving a sharp stub sticking out.

              The absolute worst thing is to trim at any angle other than 90 degrees -- doing that creates a small knife.

        • lazide3 hours ago |parent

          Use a zero clearance cutter which cuts it flat and flush with the lock. The jaws aren’t ’v’ shaped like they are for heavier wires, one side is flat and cuts flush on that side.

          Usually these are used for small wires.

          Any electrical supply place will have them - search for ‘flush cutter’ and the like.

          A razor (surprisingly) also works, but tends to damage other stuff easier if you slip.

          You can run your skin over them all day, no issues.

  • ohadron8 hours ago

    The maximum theoretical size for a zip archive is 16 exabytes (2^64 bytes). It's free if you have where to store it.

    • Someone44 minutes ago |parent

      Should be doable on consumer hardware nowadays, if you cheat by using a file system that either supports sparse files (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sparse_file) or block-level deduplication (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_deduplication). You may need to use raw block I/O to create such file, and there will be lots of duplicated content in the archive.

      Also: how hard is that limit? ZIP archives have their TOC at the end of the file and allow for inserting ‘junk’ that is never referenced in the ZIP’s table of contents. Isn’t it possible to add such junk to make an archive go over that limit (assuming that your file system allows files larger than 2⁶⁴ bytes)?

    • pugworthy7 hours ago |parent

      The problem is once you zip them to full compression, you really can't use them ever again. That is unless you get the good ones that let you technically unzip without requiring destruction.

  • jalla7 hours ago

    So, it's a overpriced plastic strap.

    Can get 10 m polypropylene strap or ratchet straps for $10 that does the same job and holds more.

    Alternately, just loop many zip ties together when you need more length.

    Doh.

    • lazide3 hours ago |parent

      It depends on what you’re doing. If you want to do an artsy hogtie real fast, those other options are kinda meh.

  • frou_dh3 hours ago

    Used in space but NOT cleared for attaching the Space Shuttle to the fuel tank.

  • rhplus10 hours ago

    This would need quite a lot of force to overcome friction and cinch tight, no? Aside from some fun marketing, the problem is already solved by items like ratchet tie downs, Velcro straps or even just cord/rope with the right bundling knots.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tie_down_strap

    • ok_dad10 hours ago |parent

      There is a pin you can put in it to lock it (there is a video) but it seems like mostly just a fun item with a bit of utility on the side.

  • Bendyan hour ago

    I read the title as “The largest zip file…”

  • beerandt10 hours ago

    Most HVAC contractor counters carry packs of longer ones for insulating ductwork (though not as heavy duty as what's pictured).

  • readme10 hours ago

    I'm going to have nightmares about waking up restrained in this thing.

    • giardini10 hours ago |parent

      Can I buy one for a belt? I'm periodically needing to add another notch to my belts and this seems a good replacement! Maybe another few colors, please?

      • tzs6 hours ago |parent

        I've got a belt like this [1] which works great. It is a braided belt and the prong on the buckle simply goes through the braiding so you in effect can have a hole wherever you want one.

        I often adjust it depending on what I'm doing and after a few years I've not noticed in damage or degradation from sticking the prong through the braid.

        [1] https://www.walmart.com/ip/George-Men-s-35MM-Black-Stretch-B...

        • Cthulhu_38 minutes ago |parent

          That one reminds me of the NATO straps popular in combination with Casio watches, I used to have that.

          But for a belt, I also have (used to have?) a canvas belt with a buckle that would pinch the belt instead of go through it. Two actually, the one had two D-rings, the other had a more involved system with a bar going through a slotted box of sorts.

      • eurleif9 hours ago |parent

        Ratchet belts exist, e.g.: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07PGV4ZRD

      • schoen10 hours ago |parent

        How will you undo it? With a little tool to release the ratchet?

      • pvillano8 hours ago |parent

        Columbia also makes an infinitely adjustable belt https://www.amazon.com/Columbia-Mens-Boys-Military-Belt/dp/B...

  • bandrami10 hours ago

    I could put all of my cables in one giant bundle...

  • cucumber37328422 hours ago

    I'm not gonna go down the list, but any "looks down his nose at everyone without a degree" type mechanical engineer (you know the type I'm talking about) can provide you a litany of reasons that a zip tie gets inefficient at this scale and why other options are better.

    This product likely exists because of a stupid bureaucracy somewhere that has approved zip ties but is such a labor wasting pain in the ass to deal with $75 zip ties are cheaper than getting permission to use more reasonable options.

  • dheera7 hours ago

    Here are some longer 5 foot zip ties on Amazon

    https://www.amazon.com/EzySup-Inch-Pounds-Tensile-Strength/d...

    • tiagod5 hours ago |parent

      "To be clear, we’re not just talking about length, although at 47 inches long it’s certainly substantial. But extremely long zip ties already exist for things like wrapping large bundles of cable. This one is also cartoonishly thick, and features a similarly upscaled locking mechanism that allows it to hold up to 2,000 pounds, according to the company."