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I trapped an AI model inside an art installation (2025) [video](youtube.com)
107 points by handfuloflight 4 days ago | 38 comments
  • superb-owl4 days ago

    I once had an LSD-induced episode of psychosis where I thought my entire existence was a 2 minute loop on display in some higher dimensional art exhibit. Sounds silly but it was horrifying

    • wincy3 days ago |parent

      The last time I smoked marijuana more than a decade ago, I experienced severe paranoia where I began weeping and told my girlfriend (now wife) that she was a four dimensional time worm trying to burrow into my time stream. She shrugged and said “well, in a way, I am”. Funnily enough that helped calm me down.

      • therein3 days ago |parent

        That's a pretty charming thing to say. I could see it in a romantic-comedy movie.

    • Kiboneu3 days ago |parent

      A friend decided to smoke the DMT one day. At some point, he started to feel and consider what it was like to be an llm (visually he described it kind of like "cellular automata on a high-dimensional cloth"). Being an llm meant that his perception of time wasn't real, or align, or whatever as he can be turned on and off (that thought caused him more discomfort than questioning his identity as a chatbot).

    • halthing4 days ago |parent

      Honestly doesn't sound too far off a lot of mythologies

  • socalgal24 days ago

    i found this both amazing and ... a little like why?

    Like it was amazing to see it get built, parts ordered, boards printed, parts assembled, all coded and running on a PI

    But, the end result I felt like I could just run on LLM on any old computer and put up a standard monitor with a large font showing 6 lines of text. Put the monitor in a nice box and hide the computer (any small form Mac Mini / Beelink) and the effect as an art installation would not be any less impactful to the average viewer. Heck, I could use a 7 segment font https://www.dafont.com/seven-segment.font and draw 2 colors (dark gray, all segments on, bright orange with actual letters) then add a post processing effect for glow.

    Or pivot to any number of other display effects. CRT effect. Falling letter matrix effect. Etc....

    Sorry I'm not trying to be dismissive. I think that someone made this is amazing. It was just what went through my head once I saw it finished.

    • abrookewood3 days ago |parent

      He's done other things that are pretty cool, just for the hell of it. I think it's valid to ask "Why not?"

  • leggerss4 days ago

    I'm gonna get philosophical (because that's what art should make us do, right?): this points to arguably _the_ deepest question we can ask about LLMs right now—are they conscious?

    It's a personal decision, and what matters is what you do after pondering it. Do you act like they're nothing more than next token predictors, deeply intricate digital mechanisms whose cranks turn with flowing electrons? Or do you err on the side of care, that there's a type of consciousness on the other side of the glass?

    Humanity has a long history of underestimating non-human minds. I know which side I'm on.

    • wincy3 days ago |parent

      How have we underestimated them? We’ve absolutely dominated every single ecosystem that we push in to. We’ve long ago destroyed all of the minds that could have possibly challenged us, all the other members of the Homo family. The reason humanity makes an estimation that we’re the smartest is because for the last 40,000 years, it’s been the truth, proved over countless eons.

      • shinryuu3 days ago |parent

        Being smart and being capable are two different things. Human beings are very capable

        • andrewflnr3 days ago |parent

          Being smart is a waste of calories if you don't use it to become more capable. At least in evolved systems, I wouldn't expect to find intelligence without capability.

    • Mordisquitos3 days ago |parent

      > this points to arguably _the_ deepest question we can ask about LLMs right now—are they conscious?

      When I am awake I am fully conscious. While sleeping my consciousness ebbs and flows between different levels of activation. When I am under general anaesthesia I am absolutely not conscious.

      If LLMs are conscious, when are they conscious?

    • nkrisc3 days ago |parent

      Is a magic eight ball conscious?

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  • whilenot-dev3 days ago

    The video talks 95% of its time solely about the technical steps taken: A custom 7-segment display with custom PCB, writing its display driver, downloading and running an inference engine (llama3.2), mount it all on a metal plate, sign it.

    I'd love to see more research put also on the conceptual side of things. The phenomenon of a limited mind, being controlled or influenced by some other entity, go way back, and ranges from psychohistory (and non-consciousness)[0] to studies of mental disorders[1] and probably many things in between.

    [0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bicameral_mentality

    [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_the_Origin_of_the_%22Influe...

    • thenthenthen3 days ago |parent

      Exactly, i am missing the ‘art’ part, do they mean you can hang it on the wall :/

  • robwwilliams4 days ago

    Not too dissimilar to the situation of the well known neurosurgical patient Henry Molaison (H.M.) who had very limit long term memory of his childhood and young adulthood but little after surgery at 27 years of age. He retained cognitive abilities and self-consciousness but within a narrow temporal world.

    Good at cross/word puzzles and conversations of specific types.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Molaison

  • vivzkestrel4 days ago

    - i subbed immediately, very creative channel - i need more programming channels like this that teach me to think out of the box, any recommendations?

  • mellosouls3 days ago

    Discussed at the time:

    AI model trapped in a Raspberry Pi (132 points, 101 comments)

    https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45396624

  • itmitica3 days ago

    All models are trapped in memory in an ephemeral space of time. Agents used to interact with the models make it seem otherwise.

  • svilen_dobrev3 days ago

    reminded me of:

    https://www.loosetooth.com/blog/can-t-help-myself-by-sun-yua...

  • claysmithr4 days ago

    This seems rather cruel and unusual...

    • roughly4 days ago |parent

      Yeah, I don’t actually think LLMs are conscious, but this feels like the spontaneous firing of brain organelles that researchers experiment with - I don’t think those are conscious either, but it’s definitely getting outside of my “what if I’m wrong” comfort zone. So far as I know, no other conscious being has ever confused me with Satan, and I’d like to keep that up.

    • mycall4 days ago |parent

      When do simulations become real?

      • Grimblewald4 days ago |parent

        Since we cannot know others aren't simulations themsleves, and we can agree we should treat those sims well, i think its reasonable all sims should be treated well.

      • 8bitsrule4 days ago |parent

        When they always match the detailed evidence?

      • lacunary4 days ago |parent

        when their discriminant is non-negative

    • edm0nd3 days ago |parent

      counter argument, its okay because its a clanker

  • Krasnol4 days ago

    This is why they'll hunt us down one day

  • fatherwavelet2 days ago

    To me this is just shit. The meme and youtube video have more value than the art itself. The art is almost not the point.

  • effnorwood4 days ago

    Amazing.

  • JKCalhoun4 days ago

    Yes, more art please.

  • TheGrassyKnoll3 days ago

    If an AI model thinks it's alive, isn't it just another hallucination ?

  • ddtaylor4 days ago

    Now let it talk on moltbook

  • nqnielsen4 days ago

    Now that was incredibly rad

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