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Danish Students Face Legal Action and Fines over Textbook Piracy(torrentfreak.com)
18 points by t-3 a day ago | 8 comments
  • christoph-heiss21 hours ago

    Oh yeah, but LLMs ingesting and spitting them out is not piracy. Right.

    • gruez21 hours ago |parent

      Right, because LLMs aren't spitting out textbooks verbatim, or at least are vaguely adding safeguards against it. The students aren't being sued for ingesting pirated books, they're getting sued for sharing them.

      >The Rights Alliance confirmed it will begin filing civil lawsuits against individual students who are caught sharing even a single digital textbook.

      • joe_mamba20 hours ago |parent

        >because LLMs aren't spitting out textbooks verbatim

        Except that via the right prompt injections, some LLMs were caught they could spit out chapters of LoTR or Harry Potter 90% verbatim.

        Safeguards LLMs implemented to prevent the output from being verbatim and to be considered legally transformative, are not legitimizing the IP theft, they're just covering it up, kind of like evidence spoliation.

        But that's just my opinion, the courts will have to decide this one.

        • gruez18 hours ago |parent

          >Safeguards LLMs implemented to prevent the output from being verbatim and to be considered legally transformative, are not legitimizing the IP theft, they're just covering it up, kind of like evidence spoliation.

          Is it also "evidence spoliation" for Google Books to resist attempts to dumping out all pages of a book?

          • joe_mamba9 hours ago |parent

            Did Google books obtain the rights to the books legally or illegally?

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    • hulitu6 hours ago |parent

      Yes, because Microsoft and Disney made the law.

  • jruohonen21 hours ago

    OA, FTW and WTF.